Background
Mint Season 7 Episode 11 welcomes Peter Saputo, a dynamic and innovative web3-native music artist. We delve into Peter’s fascinating journey as a creator in the ever-evolving world of NFTs and crypto. From his early days of building relationships with the likes of Grady and Good Karma, to cultivating a devoted fan base through his creativity, Peter shares his valuable insights on navigating the complexities of web3.
He also candidly discusses his decision-making process for launching on various minting platforms, balancing one-of-one releases with edition drops, and engaging with his web2 followers on NFTs.
Peter generously provides tips for success and offers his unique perspective on the most underrated music artist in web3.
I hope you enjoy our conversation.
Time Stamps
- 00:00 – Intro
- 05:31 – Immediate Performance After Meeting Grady and Good Karma
- 09:20 – Group Chat Creation and Management
- 11:14 – Acquiring Fans Before Releasing Music
- 13:27 – Translating Charisma From In-Person to Online Interactions
- 14:16 – Evolution in the Crypto Space Over a Year
- 16:23 – Balancing One-of-One Releases and Edition Drops for Community Building
- 17:34 – Decision-Making Process Launching on Zora
- 20:25 – The Shift Towards Edition Releases Over One-of-Ones
- 21:57 – Relationship Differences with One-of-One Collectors vs Edition Collectors
- 23:01 – Plans for 2023
- 25:08 – Engagement with Web2 Followers on NFTs and Crypto
- 27:12 – Mental Model for Cadence and Strategy
- 28:30 – Tips for Success
- 33:12 – Most Underrated Music Artist in Web3
- 34:29 – Outro
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Hey, Peter saputo. Welcome to mint, longtime coming. How you doing? Thanks for being on.
Peter Saputo: Yeah, I’m doing great. Thank you for having me.
Intro
I’m excited to have you. I’m a collector of yours. I really enjoy music and I remember it towards the end of season six. We were just kicking it, I think it went to like the LA creator houses and crypto. I forgot which one. Well, we should run an episode on this project coming up and you sold me on this idea and really got to tap into the way you think. And I was like, wow, this kid really gets it. This kid, not a kid. And I was like, this is cool. We should we run it, so I’m excited to have you on Peter. Peter 30 seconds, who are you man? Give us a quick intro.
Peter Saputo: Yo, I’m Peter. Make music, produce out of my studio at home in Los Angeles and just been making music for as long as I can remember and recently gotten to like web three over the last year. And honestly just just live in life trying to make music and and have fun.
Let’s go. Living life, living life in web three. How’d you get into web three? What is that story?
Peter Saputo: So, I mean, I got into crypto. They started investing in crypto kind of beginning of quarantine, and kind of didn’t experience with any NFTs or anything, did not have the energy to like pay attention to any of that stuff I was going on. And I just randomly had a friend come over, kind of once we could socialize again. And he was actually hyping me up on Daniel Allen’s overstimulated project. And he’s like, dude, like, I don’t know if you’ve heard of like, music NFTs or Daos or anything but like you should really like you know, get into this stuff. Like this could be a way that you could kind of find your life essentially and your music and whatever and I was very skeptical to be completely honest. I was like, this seems too good to be true and whatnot. But literally, here we are. We made it through, so, it’s kind of wild. But yeah, I honestly hit up like a manager and asked them or asked him what he thought of like music NFTs. And he pretty much gave me like the green light. He’s like, dude, just like dive into it like you won’t forget it. And that kind of how we get here right now.
What was your first step after you hit him up? What did you do next?
Peter Saputo: It was really, really quick. I discovered Good Karma. Like right after I kind of started diving into the space, and Good Karma records run by Grady, who actually listened to Grady’s music for a minute before ever, like getting into music NFTs and loved his music. So, when I saw that he was like diving into this, I was like, oh, that’s sick. I at the time lives in Hollywood like across the street from the Fonda theater. And he happened to be playing at the Fonda theater, literally the next day. And the next day after like the Good Karma, like the initial, like crowdfunded. And I just frickin walked over to the venue, bought a ticket, and I was like, I’m gonna be great and I’m gonna talk to him about Good Karma. Ended up meeting Cooper Charlie, Cooper.
Cool.
Peter Saputo: And that night which was sick and migrated later on. We had some Mutual’s and just ended off. Turns out Good Karma had the first ever like LA in person meet up the very next day. So I just naturally just showed up. And yeah, just kind of got really connected within Good Karma, which was sick. Yeah.
I would argue that something that’s special about you, Peter is when people try to think like, how do I get into the space? They don’t know where to start. And your default sort of step was to go find people that know more than you do. Yeah, go ask them questions. Go shake their hand, go try to break into some type of circle and figure it out. It’s very entrepreneurial esque to an extent. It is in like you’re laughing because probably you don’t think about it like that, right? Compared to all the people that I have on the podcast, right and listening to their story and how they got started. It’s very much okay, I don’t get something I want to figure it out. I’m gonna go find people that understand it and break my way into the circle. Right? Why do you think that’s like your default sort of reaction compared to other people, where they’re just like sitting at their computer, like they don’t know what to do. They were trying to read blogs or encrypted Twitter, they don’t know what communities to join. You’re like, I’m just gonna like I’m gonna break into it somehow.
Peter Saputo: Yeah, I think honestly, just being in LA made it very easy. I think if I lived somewhere else, it would have been a little bit harder to get into this space. But I think that the, I don’t know, I just had a very few people that I really trusted that. Like I said, gave me that push to get into it. And I was like, I don’t know what I’m doing because like ever since COVID. It was like, okay, like, releasing music felt weird. You couldn’t really go on tour. I mean, you couldn’t, so it’s like, kind of what can you do as an artist other than just like make music and at the end of the day, it can’t only be making music, as much as some of us would like love for that to be the case but it was honestly, I think the reason why just kind of went on just like went for it was, I didn’t really have anything better to do honestly. You know if that makes sense. Yeah, just I was like, might as well just try it out.
Immediate Performance After Meeting Grady and Good Karma
Might as well, might as well. Okay, so you meet Grady, you meet Good Karma. Do you immediately perform at a showcase?
Peter Saputo: So, I think crazy because literally, I think a few weeks later after I met Grady and Cooper, Miami Arbaaz was happening. And I literally just bought a flight and went in and popped in. And I was like let’s see what’s happening and it just really dove into it there and ended up meeting like blockchain Brett, which was incredible, love that guy. Few other like amazing like people who like are my friends now. And I think that like through kind of all that, then Grady when they were doing a showcase, he had asked me to play and I was like absolutely. So, yeah, it was kind of like I definitely put in like a lot of work. It wasn’t like this immediate like, oh, you popped in come you know play showcase. I think Grady probably hadn’t even like listen to any of my music after we met a few times and like whatever but it definitely took like a minute of just like being involved in this space before like, you know, I got a text to play.
Fast forward. How long a year have you been for a year now?
Peter Saputo: I spent over a year which is okay.
So, fast forward a year. What were some of those initial misconceptions, that you’ve had getting into this space that have now become so like obvious and cleared up that it’s a no brainer?
Peter Saputo: Dude, the biggest one is how like, much I was overthinking how to drop a music NFT, like how much I was like thinking like to do this whole strategic like, thing and like whatever.
Oh, interesting.
Peter Saputo: Like Google Docs of like all these things that I wanted to do and how I was going to present them and like whatever. And now I’m at the point of like, dude, like I have a song coming out in a month that I’m going to drop on sound and I right now I don’t know if I’m doing an open edition or if I’m doing capped editions or like I have no idea what I’m doing with it yet and I’m just kind of like winging it. And it’s sick now because I have enough of a collector base that I can just kind of send a text and be like, yeah, what do you guys want me to do? And they’ll kind of be like, do this and there’s a lot less like thinking. So, I think it’s more like do than think
What a weird concept to say out loud. I have an art collector base. Like I’ll just text them Yeah, they’ll give me what like what, like if you tell us anybody outside of the circle, they’re like, what did you just say?
Peter Saputo: They’re like, what are you talking about? It’s like, Oh, your team is like 100 people in the chat. It’s like boom, kind of like it’s crazy.
How wild is that? Like, put that into perspective of all these other artists that are just trying to keep up to date with the Spotify algorithm or not to say that you aren’t as well trying to get distribution for your music. But you now have this community, this fan club, whatever you want to call them, whatever you call the Saputos in the group chat. You know, I think it’s pretty marvelous to be honest. And I think having that level of community that you can directly DM, send them a track, hit them up for ideas, drop a link for a drop, drop a link for a new job that you’re, that you have rolling out and get the whole community hyped about. It is something super unique and super special. And I feel like well definitely not many people have that.
Peter Saputo: Yeah, no, definitely, definitely not. Which is, it’s so cool being part of something so like, niche or like, it’s just, it’s definitely, it just feels good, honestly, to have community like that because I think that yeah, I mean like not many people have a chat where they can hit up their like top fans.
Group Chat Creation and Management
So, it’s talking about that. So, when you have a chat, for those who don’t understand what that means, okay. Because a lot of people listen to mint, they’re either already like web three native or getting into the space, using the podcast as a guide to navigate that. So, I want to break this down because you’re very relatable you’re in this space for almost a little bit over a year. And you figured it out, like you made it on sound, you have your group chat, you’re selling out drops, paint out the sort of like roadmap, right? The steps, what does that mean to have a group chat? How the hell do you funnel people into a group chat? How do you even get somebody to collect your stuff to begin with and then bring them into the, you know what I mean? Like, lay it out for me?
Peter Saputo: I mean, definitely, like, it took time, and that’s the biggest thing. It’s not like an overnight thing. It’s not just over a couple of weeks. It’s like, I mean, I spent so much time networking in this space before I had sold anything, before I go on to any platforms. And it was honestly at the point of like, I had been around for so long and people were questioning like, why isn’t Peter on you know, XYZ? All the why isn’t he on all these platforms? Like whatever and it’s just like, it kind of showed how much work needs to be put in. And it’s not even necessarily like work. It’s just making friends. Honestly, at this point. I kind of just, I’m gonna shut up everywhere and started meeting people and by that time I dropped anything. I already had fans that wanted to be collectors. And once they were, you know, collectors of mine, I just went hey, I’m making a telegram. I started out with like a discord, which I honestly barely invited people to. It was mostly like, my web to fanbase and discord. But yeah, I just started inviting people do a telegram chat and I was like, yo, we can hang out here. You know, you guys will get info on whatever first and yeah, I don’t know it’s a good hang. the GMs every day.
Acquiring Fans Before Releasing Music
The Gms everyday, but how did you get your fans before dropping? That’s like, that’s the golden question.
Peter Saputo: Yeah, I mean, like I said, it’s getting fans before dropping anything is, that is the work and it is just showing up. Like I legitimately shut up any possible place that I could. I was buying tickets putting them on my credit card and being like, I’m probably never gonna see money or I’m never gonna get this money back. Like I’m literally like just winging this. And just showing up like we met at, where did we meet? We met in Denver, Eth Denver.
I think so.
Peter Saputo: Yeah, we just pulled up and networks there because just like meeting all these collectors and the I pretty much every event and the states are pretty much pulled up to which was wild, who’s sick but it was definitely like, in person talking to these people and not everybody necessarily has like the luxury of like, being able to do that or not even the luxury but like the lucky, like the balls to just put everything on a credit card and be like YOLO, Like I don’t know, like it was honestly stupid. decision but like, it worked out. So, not stupid. But yeah, I mean, I just think it’s just a matter of networking with people and you can do that online and by being in discord or hanging out on Twitter spaces and stuff like that. And like, you know, I was doing all those things too. So, it’s kind of I just put myself everywhere I possibly can be, to the point where you kind of couldn’t miss me, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I agree.
Peter Saputo: I was able to, you know, when I did my first like, sound drop it was gone instantly, which was mind blowing. But it kind of made sense why that happened? Because I like I knew and everybody knew how much time I spent in this space. So yeah.
Do you feel like you’re better in person or online, when it comes to meeting new friends?
Peter Saputo: Oh, definitely better in person. Yeah, definitely.
Translating Charisma From In-Person to Online Interactions
How do you like translate like your charisma in person to interacting with people online?
Peter Saputo: I honestly the, it’s interesting, like the way that I text people is the way that I just speak it. So, like my messages are like all sudden like four or five messages, just the way that I would like talk.
Right.
Peter Saputo: And I feel like in a sense, it’s almost, it’s almost the same. But it’s definitely easier to like, I mean, you’re having conversations in person, whereas like online, it’s like you’re not necessarily going to have a conversation with, you know, Adam Levy, you know what I’m saying? Like, it’s not like, I can, you know, if I see you at an event, it’s like, yo, what’s up, you know, we can have a chat like, whatever. It’s a lot easier than just trying to get through your DMs or something to that effect.
Evolution in the Crypto Space Over a Year
Right. Right. Yeah. Right. Another cool thing, Peter, that makes this conversation super unique is, like you said, you’ve been in the space for a little over a year now. You’ve seen music, NFTs and it’s like make it original form. And you’ve seen it, you see it today. Walk me through sort of how you understand the evolution within that period because a year in crypto is like 10 years elsewhere. Everything moves so fast. Anything stands out to you throughout that period that you’ve been involved to date, that you’ve sort of learned from, that you can reflect on. Anything of that nature?
Peter Saputo: Man, I feel like when I first was kind of getting in his space, who was I mean, sound didn’t exist yet. And it definitely went from just like one of ones in like a mirror crowdfund, to what it is now. And when I was initially getting into, like music NFTs, I didn’t necessarily think of it as like doing additions or anything. It was kind of like oh one of one’s like, you know, having like a super fan like your, you know, top in wanting to like your one on one song or whatever. And which is still sick. I still love one on ones. But I think fast forward to like now with doing like additions and be able to do like giving your music NFTs away for free and like stuff like that. It’s definitely grown the space a lot and I’ve definitely at a point now where like I prefer editions. And, like, I think I like people being included. I want to include as many people as possible. It shouldn’t be necessarily the same that like only a few because if I. For example, I dropped nine songs in 2022, if I had only done one of ones out of had maybe nine collectors, whereas now I have almost 300. That’s like, that feels like way, way better and that feels way more like community which I’m loving.
Balancing One-of-One Releases and Edition Drops for Community Building
So, how do you find the balance between dropping the one on ones and getting that single collector versus dropping editions, like capped editions and building community through volume?
Peter Saputo: I think that for, at this point, the way that I’m kind of thinking about it is kind of songs that are on my back catalog, that like I’ve dropped while ago. I think make a little bit more sense to exist as one on ones and like I only have ever dropped to one on ones on catalog. I’ve done a couple on like Zora but I’ve definitely just done way more editions and typically those are just like newer songs. And I think it makes a little more sense to you know, if I’m dropping a song on you know, Friday and I’ll just do a sound drop the day before and try to get people to end listen to it and boom song comes out, instant traffic to that song on Spotify. It converts a little more but what I love about one on ones with my back catalogue is like kind of when you drop a song, a year goes by and it’s like okay, this song doesn’t necessarily have much hype around it. You can kind of build new hype on. So yeah.
Decision-Making Process Launching on Zora
Another question I have for you is, artists struggle with deciding which platforms to launch on. Should they launch on decent? Should they launch on Zora? Should they launch on sound, on catalog? When do you launch on sound? When do you launch on Zora? How do you understand that whole dynamic and what is your decision making process look like?
Peter Saputo: I will honestly say I don’t think it matters where you start. It just matters that you start. I started out on Zora because I wasn’t on catalog. Again, sound didn’t exist yet. And I just wanted to have my music on the blockchain and I just put up, I minted the song and it went months without telling nobody, like I tweeted about it like once or twice. I wasn’t trying to be like super aggressive with it because I was like, you know I got it. I gotta meet some people first. And I kind of like learn more to you know, really understand what I’m getting into. But yeah, I mean like starting on Zora was not a not a bad decision. I think that even when sounds, you know when sound launched. I wasn’t on sound till April and sound launch in December I think. And so, when I did get on ,I kind of already had like a lot of time just like waiting, like what do I do next kind of thing because it’s like I’m still on catalog. And when I, even when I got on sound in April, you couldn’t just like do another drop. And Zora had allowed made it. I don’t know what the term necessarily would be but basically they made it so you could do additions on. And I saw that as like okay, like, you know, Zora probably doesn’t have like a built in collector base for music NFTs but you can do addition so, I’m just gonna experiment with that. And I just did a couple of drops there and they were you know, they were all pretty successful. And it was just a matter of like, doing like, I didn’t want to wait around. I didn’t feel like I needed to necessarily wait around. But it definitely, definitely like just I don’t know. At the end of the day, as long as you start somewhere and our minting stuff, that’s like really all that matters. Obviously make sure you can represent this base well enough before you mint anything but but yeah, I mean just like starting anywhere. Like I think that if you want to do a drop in decent, go for it. If you want to start in sound. If you can start on sound, you know like definitely go for it but it doesn’t necessarily matter. It’s, even if you’re dropping on the sound now, it’s like you’re not gonna get an instant sell out. You’re still got to put in some work. So, whether it’s on Zora, sound, like doesn’t really matter. So, you just got to, you’ve got to do it.
The Shift Towards Edition Releases Over One-of-Ones
That makes a lot of sense. Another question I have for you. It goes back to kind of reflecting on the year, you’re in music NFTs. Remember about a year ago, even like halfway into that year like one of the ones were very hot. A lot of artists were kind of pushing towards them. It feels as if like one of ones, they still have like their dominance. They still have their like raw uniqueness. But it seems as if artists have sort of shifted towards doing editions over one of ones, is there any particular reason? Are you feeling the same thing or am I just in my own head, on my own Twitter timeline?
Peter Saputo: Low key, I think it’s just a hype based thing. Like there’s really just more hype around editions right now. And I think I mean, there’s people that are trying to like flip these music NFTs and like whatever, you’re not really flipping one of ones very easily. And so, I think it’s just like a high base thing. And I think also, starting out it makes way more sense to just do editions because you can get more people, whether it’s free or paid it doesn’t matter, like you’ll get more people in by doing edition. So it kind of just like makes sense, but I still think that one of one should exist in the sense of like, you know, if you have one sign that you really, you know, absolutely adore, a one of ones maybe it makes more sense for that and for it to be in one person’s wallet. Rather than like a ton of people that maybe you know, maybe you don’t know.
Relationship Differences with One-of-One Collectors vs Edition Collectors
Do you feel like your relationship is different with those who collect your one of ones versus those who collect your editions? What is that like?
Peter Saputo: Definitely, I think the people have collected my one on ones have been essentially my like day ones. And those people I’ve just like no longer and the more relationship with and if anything now, even since you know those one of ones sales it’s like I become close to those people. And there’s definitely a little bit more like value in them. I mean, they’re like inherently is more like value in them. But I think with editions, I try my absolute hardest to track every single wallet down, get them on my telegram, have a conversation with them. And I really tried to but it’s definitely way harder to keep track. And so, therefore like it’s way easier to pay more attention to those people who have collected my one on ones.
Plans for 2023
That makes sense. That makes sense. Okay, I want to talk about the future of Peter saputo okay. You’ve been active in the group chat. I always view the group chat. I’m always in there watching what you’re doing. You have the balance between doing paid editions, dropping random free editions. I’m curious? What’s next, like what do you have coming up? You have a song coming out next month, you told us yet? What is 2023 look like for you?
Peter Saputo: 2023, just as 2022, is me just figuring things out. I think that as much as it’s amazing to have like set up plans. I hate being put in like a box essentially like boxing myself in. And so, I mean, I have so many songs that I’m planning to drop this year. All of them will be tokenized. And yeah, that’s the plan. The plan is just to drop as much music as I possibly can. And to allow people to collect it. I think there’s not necessarily anything like super big that I have like, currently planned out. I think it’s just a matter of like still just growing my collector base, as it kind of was the last half of 2022 where I was like, you know what, like, sure would be amazing to like price my music NFTs like higher, but it feels a lot better to press them lower and get more people. And just make new friends and just kind of just vibe out and I think that I’m kind of carrying that energy into into this year. And just figuring things out as I go, like I definitely don’t want to box myself in and just kind of like trying to, you know, work my way through web two, Tik Tok and everything and still like having sessions every day and like just making the best music of my life and just like doing the thing. But I think that I can’t like I don’t want to put too much emphasis on like a plan. Yeah, we’re just kind of, we’re just kind of winging this year and just like going for it, like let’s just.
Engagement with Web2 Followers on NFTs and Crypto
I’m here for it, part of winging, it means that you’re focusing more, I guess focusing your time both on web two and web three. I follow you on Tik Tok as well. Your content is very unique. And I’m curious if any of your web two followers have ever approached you and asked you questions about NFTs, crypto, everything that you’re doing in that world and if they have, what do you tell them?
Peter Saputo: Yeah, I mean, my discord. I initially started out to make like web three like discord. And I ended up being like, you know what, like, how sick would it be to onboard like people from my DMs into discord and you know, I spent like a wild trying to like really get people in there and did not grab musIc NFTs, didn’t do anything. Occasionally, I would add a few people that have like collected stuff into my discord and we would just kind of just get more people in there. And I just started announcing, like, oh, I’m doing an NFT job. You know, like, you come into here on this day, whatever. And I had a few people that were actually like curious, and I actually AirDrop a couple music NFT of like random web two fans, that were on my Discord that like created wallets. Which was sick. Which I think.
That’s pretty cool.
Peter Saputo: I do, it’s super cool. I was like, what is happening right now? Like, let’s go. And it definitely like at that point, it became a goal of like, okay, like, I would love to fill this discord with people. And not only just have like a community just around my music, but also a community with people that support me enough to like go mint something. And I almost set out like a goal essentially to onboard people to web three through that discord, which has been somewhat successful, you know, like, I’m not converting everybody, I’m not trying to shove it down their throats. But like, just like I’m doing this, you know, if you’re interested kind of a thing, and you know, I’ve had some success which was tight.
Mental Model for Cadence and Strategy
I want to also address another thing you said in your 2023 goals. Is just drop it a lot of music, tokenized all that music. How do you think about cadence, like dropping at a specific? Like you’re gonna drop every single week, you’re gonna drop every other day, you’re gonna drop once a month. Do you have any mental model for thinking about cadence and strategy around that?
Peter Saputo: He like yes and no, it’s kind of in the same thing of like, if I boxed myself in and say I’m doing something every two weeks. It’s like, well, what if I want to drop something else then it kind of like ruins my schedule. And I kind of hate that. But I think that like I’m hoping for you know, one mixed mastered song every month, which would be ideal. But I don’t want to like sit down and be like, yo, I’m doing this and then A, not be able to follow through with it or B, have so much music I’m sitting on, that I want to drop more and it feels like I’m like I don’t know. I think that one thing that like could happen too is if I did say like, oh, I want to do a drop every month. I do that drop and I’m like cool, I’m done for the month. I don’t want to like put myself in that mindset. I don’t want to like get near there. I kinda want to just like try to grind as much as I can. And you know whenever I have something ready it’s, you know, I’m hitting upload.
Tips for Success
Right, right. Yeah. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Look, I’m super excited to watch what 2023 has in store for you. I’ll be collecting. I’ll be listening. I keep saving. I keep saving your music and I really enjoy the stuff that you’re putting out. I guess, last thing I want to leave you off with, Peter is, if you have a few tips to share with artists coming into web three. They probably look at you as somewhat of a leader kind of like pioneer in the space. You found your collector base, you’ve made money through tokenizing your songs. What are some tips you can provide beyond the ones that we already talked about?
Peter Saputo: I think one would be think less about the money and more about community and it sounds really. Like I think like some artists might be like, well, why would I get into it? I’m not going to make money. Like why would I put the time in? But there’s like something so, so sick and like so special about having, like I said, like about like a group chat, just having your fans in a group chat. That if I say, hey, you know, I need people to presale the song. Send it in the frickin chat. Boom. I’m getting pre-sales from everybody. It’s like a direct line to my fans, which is something that I think should be like, your like, one of your main goals with getting into this space is because, I think that it might be a little bit harder to get like kind of web two fans to get into a group chat. But with like web three fans, it’s like everybody wants to like hop into it. And maybe not a discord right now but like telegram chat with like some homies and so, it’s definitely something to like focus on, is just building out your community and being like, hey, like it doesn’t have to be only a web three money thing. It can literally be something that’s going to also affect you with web two at the same time. And I think that’s definitely something that I would say like, for sure focus on because you probably won’t even see money immediately, like you won’t, you know, it’s definitely like so.
How do you stay motivated? Like you got to, like I feel like that’s difficult because at one point you need to like on one end of the spectrum, you have to spend time study to space, dedicate, even invest money, goings, booking flights, hotels, going to conferences, kissing babies, shaking hands, just like you did. But on the other end, you have to go in with the openness of not making a buck and just like overloading your credit card and taking a loan with a high interest rate like you did you know. And like having that pressure to figure it out like and majority of people will probably not, like go all the way to the finish line with this new field, right? Only a select few will actually figure it out. I feel like it’s like a big, it’s a big hurdle because there’s so many keywords, so many terms, so many new faces that you need to meet, a new culture that you need, a new sub internet culture that you need to understand, like so many moving parts that majority of people will just get the turret. How do you even approached that?
Peter Saputo: I think one thing too, that definitely, or I hope will like motivate some more people is like, getting into web three helps me out more on the web two side, than if I just stuck on the web two side, like I’ve met so many people through like after party where, like the like the song I’m putting out in a month like I, my mixing engineer and his brother were at after an after party event and you know if I’d hold up to the event as I do. And I ended up like hitting it off with my engineers, brother and he ended up producing a song with me. And it was like, it went from like web three events to like, oh, like okay, this is actually helping me out, just making music. And I think that there’s so many people in this space that are so incredibly good at what they do. And that I mean there’s it’s such like a niche thing that it’s like low key very easy to kind of get into this like community if you just put in the time, and you might see a lot of like benefits just like popping in. Regardless if you make money or not. You’re gonna make some cool friends, cool connections. And yeah, I mean, that’s definitely like a huge motivator for like, some of my other friends who have like in the web three is like it’s not just about the money. It’s not necessarily just about community. Like there’s so many things that come with being in this space that I think you wouldn’t expect, but you don’t really know until you dive into it. So yeah, you kind of got to dive into it. But yeah, I mean, so many people out here trying to just like make money and get in and get out and like, there’s so much more than that. As cheesy as it sounds, there’s so much more than that.
Most Underrated Music Artist in Web3
Yeah. Who do you think is the most underrated music artist in the web three space right now?
Peter Saputo: Man. Is it bad if I say one of my homies. I have a brand new just dropped on the sound and it’s his first ever like music NFT drop or anything. Incredible kid, he’s like one of the first people that I met when I first moved to LA. And he’s the reason why I’m even decent at producing. He made me switch to frickin Ableton from logic and show me, you know, show me the ropes and he’s honestly insane. Like I’ve known this dude for three, four years now. And almost every week, he just sends me like five or six demos of just songs that he’s like fully, like honestly, not even demos just like fully finished songs. His output is insane. I think that now with him getting into this space, it’s like, dude, if this dude just keeps dropping music NFT, which he will, like there’s no stopping him. He’s got so much.
What’s his tag?
Peter Saputo: N Mathews everybody.
Okay. Alright.
Peter Saputo: Absolute, absolute legend. And, yeah, he’s very underrated in the sense that he just did his first drop . So, we got to.
Outro
This was great. Thank you for the tips. Thanks for the insights. I’m excited to see what 2023 has in store for you. Before I let you go, where can we find you? Where can we learn more? Show it away.
Peter Saputo: Let’s go. You can find me on Instagram at PJ Saputo. Spotify, Peter Saputo. And Twitter, Peter Saputo under PJ Saputo. And you’ll see me, I’m everywhere.
Let’s go. Thank you for your time. Thank you for been a part of season seven. We’ll see you next time.
Peter Saputo: Let’s go. Thank you for having me.
